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The Silver Star · Aug 31, 2006, 09:00 AM // 09:00

I was a frequent chest runner for a few weeks opening over 1300 chests, in this time i found a lot of golds that were in my opinon shouldnt be gold such as Hammers that only lenghthen weakness, storm artifacts that only reduce blind duration. From this i have gathered that gold mods such as Lenghthening a condition duration and shortening a condition duration count as a gold.... but should this really be the case?

Big_Iron · Aug 31, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09

I got a gold fellblade in SF once and was jumping for joy until I IDed it, "Icy Fellblade of Shelter (Armor +7 vs. physical)." No + damage or any other mods. It was about as plain vanilla as you can get. It made me wonder why the hell it was gold. :/

BTW, I put it up on Guru Auction for about 5k and never got a nibble. I thought the skin and the +7 armor would fetch that much, but NOT.

LifeInfusion · Aug 31, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

beats getting a icy golden pheonix blade of demonslaying req13 with no other mods (inherent type I mean).

Anyhow that's not nearly as bad as the staves people get...

Chris Blackstar · Aug 31, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Ever since factions came out, weapons drop with mods have become useless., becaused in factions you can buy most max damage weapons with the best % damage and or bonus stats. So golds and purples, even blues are good only for their mods.

The only time this does not apply is when the weapon has a exceptional weapon skin (Appearence), but if you could care less about style, then it does not really matter.

One last point, have you ever got a gold sword with a normal skin and a +30Hp mod on it, and you go to salvage it with your expert kit, then you get 6 iron igots instead of the mod. This is the crap that needs to be fixed.

Vincaro · Aug 31, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48

there's greens that don't have +damage (Totem Axe) and I get Golds and Purples all the time that don't have weapon upgrades.

You only have a %chance of getting mods by the way when you salvage and it should stay that way.

Eviance · Aug 31, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Color = pride to most people. The idea that you can get a collectors weapon thats just as good for a mere fraction of the price of a gold with the same skin is what many complain about.
But some people like the vanity of the "rare!" like its really all that rare.
Granted there are many things out there that cannot be gotten via collector, rare skins and such - and there are some golds out there that have mods and such that are impossible to get via collector (shields with magic mods).

However, no matter what you do or say there are way to many people out there that are willing to pay out the nose for "rare" items even when they are crap. Ahh gotta love vanity! (But then if you have the money, why not eh?)

Big_Iron · Sep 01, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Here's a goodie I picked up last night....

ubermancer · Sep 01, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior

Seems to me the lack of + damage should make it white not purple. Another flaw in the AI I guess.

You... dont know what AI means, do you?

Enchanted Warrior · Sep 01, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

AI: Artificial Intelligence, the field of computer science dedicated to developing computers that mimic the complex relational functions of the human brain.

Enchanted Warrior · Sep 18, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

New one..

Ebon Platinum (gold) Longbow of Shelter
Earth damage: 12-21 req 8
Damage: +14% vs hexed
Armor +7 vs physical attacks

This is just wrong.. Come on devs, this is not working right no matter how many GW cheerleaders say it is.

explodemyheart · Sep 18, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

There's so much misconception surrounding gold items.

People seem to think that just because it's gold is has to be perfect, or at least good. This is not true. Gold items are not inherently good, it just means that there's a higher liklihood that they will be better than purples. Just as with purples there is a higher liklihood that they will be better than blues. It does not mean that they have to be, or even should be.

Just because there is no inherent mod, it does not mean it's a bug. Just because it's not even good, does not mean it's not "worthy" of being a gold. It just means that that was the luck of the draw and the higher chance for having nice mods didn't work out for you.

Aug 31, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48	#25
Vincaro Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: W/N	there's greens that don't have +damage (Totem Axe) and I get Golds and Purples all the time that don't have weapon upgrades. You only have a %chance of getting mods by the way when you salvage and it should stay that way. Last edited by Vincaro; Aug 31, 2006 at 02:50 PM // 14:50..

Sep 01, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42	#29
Enchanted Warrior Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	AI: Artificial Intelligence, the field of computer science dedicated to developing computers that mimic the complex relational functions of the human brain. Last edited by Enchanted Warrior; Sep 01, 2006 at 05:39 AM // 05:39..

Aug 31, 2006, 09:00 AM // 09:00	#21
The Silver Star Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK, Scotland Guild: Il Guild Name Il Profession: W/	I was a frequent chest runner for a few weeks opening over 1300 chests, in this time i found a lot of golds that were in my opinon shouldnt be gold such as Hammers that only lenghthen weakness, storm artifacts that only reduce blind duration. From this i have gathered that gold mods such as Lenghthening a condition duration and shortening a condition duration count as a gold.... but should this really be the case?

Aug 31, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09	#22
Big_Iron Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Edge Guild: Tormented Weapons [emo]	I got a gold fellblade in SF once and was jumping for joy until I IDed it, "Icy Fellblade of Shelter (Armor +7 vs. physical)." No + damage or any other mods. It was about as plain vanilla as you can get. It made me wonder why the hell it was gold. :/ BTW, I put it up on Guru Auction for about 5k and never got a nibble. I thought the skin and the +7 armor would fetch that much, but NOT.

Aug 31, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30	#23
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	beats getting a icy golden pheonix blade of demonslaying req13 with no other mods (inherent type I mean). Anyhow that's not nearly as bad as the staves people get...

Aug 31, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#24
Chris Blackstar Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: United States	Ever since factions came out, weapons drop with mods have become useless., becaused in factions you can buy most max damage weapons with the best % damage and or bonus stats. So golds and purples, even blues are good only for their mods. The only time this does not apply is when the weapon has a exceptional weapon skin (Appearence), but if you could care less about style, then it does not really matter. One last point, have you ever got a gold sword with a normal skin and a +30Hp mod on it, and you go to salvage it with your expert kit, then you get 6 iron igots instead of the mod. This is the crap that needs to be fixed.

Aug 31, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#26
Eviance Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Eh I forget... o_O Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	Color = pride to most people. The idea that you can get a collectors weapon thats just as good for a mere fraction of the price of a gold with the same skin is what many complain about. But some people like the vanity of the "rare!" like its really all that rare. Granted there are many things out there that cannot be gotten via collector, rare skins and such - and there are some golds out there that have mods and such that are impossible to get via collector (shields with magic mods). However, no matter what you do or say there are way to many people out there that are willing to pay out the nose for "rare" items even when they are crap. Ahh gotta love vanity! (But then if you have the money, why not eh?)

Sep 01, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56	#27
Big_Iron Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Edge Guild: Tormented Weapons [emo]	Here's a goodie I picked up last night....

Sep 18, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#30
Enchanted Warrior Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	New one.. Ebon Platinum (gold) Longbow of Shelter Earth damage: 12-21 req 8 Damage: +14% vs hexed Armor +7 vs physical attacks This is just wrong.. Come on devs, this is not working right no matter how many GW cheerleaders say it is.

Sep 18, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11	#31
explodemyheart Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indiana Guild: Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으] Profession: Mo/	There's so much misconception surrounding gold items. People seem to think that just because it's gold is has to be perfect, or at least good. This is not true. Gold items are not inherently good, it just means that there's a higher liklihood that they will be better than purples. Just as with purples there is a higher liklihood that they will be better than blues. It does not mean that they have to be, or even should be. Just because there is no inherent mod, it does not mean it's a bug. Just because it's not even good, does not mean it's not "worthy" of being a gold. It just means that that was the luck of the draw and the higher chance for having nice mods didn't work out for you.